tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post8779575597893138785..comments2024-03-26T07:33:18.502-04:00Comments on WordWranglers: ...the club that's made for you and me...Margiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03843006118151762550noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-69428407238062236722017-09-05T13:48:33.127-04:002017-09-05T13:48:33.127-04:00I think having a chapter as good as IRWA is a grea...I think having a chapter as good as IRWA is a great reason to stay, but I join you in that news-weariness, Carolyn. Not only do we have controversy, we have to triple check all information to know what's true.Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-24598234104124491082017-09-05T13:29:32.161-04:002017-09-05T13:29:32.161-04:00Liz, you expressed this so well and beautifully. ...Liz, you expressed this so well and beautifully. I find value in RWA and the local chapter as a source of information. I am totally weary of any confrontation, I have stopped watching the news because it just makes me so tired. I do love having the companionship of other writers. If we can find it a different way so be it. Carolyn McCutcheonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04505732730959271307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-9672914486649016652017-09-05T08:42:39.344-04:002017-09-05T08:42:39.344-04:00If only non-readers understood that it changes all...If only non-readers understood that it changes all the time!Mark R Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07685591390353442531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-51733792694109791792017-09-05T07:46:57.444-04:002017-09-05T07:46:57.444-04:00RWA is a great organization, and it's like any...RWA is a great organization, and it's like anything else in that it's up to you what you get out of it. The romance genre and everything about it changes all the time and RWA is immensely helpful in the learning stages.Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-84136543664220091542017-09-05T07:44:40.700-04:002017-09-05T07:44:40.700-04:00Thanks, Margie. I hope you get to go--it is a grea...Thanks, Margie. I hope you get to go--it is a great experience. RWA is a great organization.Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-10436367040281911302017-09-05T02:44:05.443-04:002017-09-05T02:44:05.443-04:00Now you've got me curious. I never joined RWA ...Now you've got me curious. I never joined RWA due to budgetary concerns, even though I now have three romances published ...but I'm not a fan of kerfluffles or marginalization, or PC, so maybe it's for the best.Mark R Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07685591390353442531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-46545967494151189752017-09-05T01:28:48.644-04:002017-09-05T01:28:48.644-04:00I've only been an RWA member for one year and ...I've only been an RWA member for one year and never went to the Portland meetings as I was usually working--life of retail. So, I have no idea about the kafuffle. Although I do dream of attending a national conference one day...but right now, totally not in my budget. Good post!Margiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03843006118151762550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-65005703746991845542017-09-04T14:34:56.090-04:002017-09-04T14:34:56.090-04:00I think a lot of us are there, Sandy, but for the ...I think a lot of us are there, Sandy, but for the greatness of chapters. One chapter--I don't remember which one--disbanded as a chapter but stayed together as a tight and professional writing group. I won't be surprised if that happens more often down the road. Thanks for coming by!Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-65793401737957404122017-09-04T14:31:34.340-04:002017-09-04T14:31:34.340-04:00For the last two years, I've been so busy cari...For the last two years, I've been so busy caring for my late husband that I missed a lot of the kerfuffle. Can't say as I missed it. And now that my head is above water again, I'm among the other commenters here, re-thinking whether the money I spend for RWA membership is really buying me anything of value. If it weren't for my local chapter, I would have left long ago. Now, I fear that I find myself in your boat and ready to jump ship.Sandy Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422277386720451415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-90005593503649139512017-09-04T13:25:52.441-04:002017-09-04T13:25:52.441-04:00I love PAN because...well, because so many of thos...I love PAN because...well, because so many of those people are just scary smart (not me) and I love "hearing" what they have to say. However, very little of it has to do with anything that actually affects either my career or me. I will miss the conversation (although I mostly lurk), but I don't think it's enough to keep me in the organization. Yes, what you said about cost--I just can't do it. Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-42497305574686945782017-09-04T13:18:14.721-04:002017-09-04T13:18:14.721-04:00I too, have been pondering whether to continue wit...I too, have been pondering whether to continue with RWA. I joined originally in the early nineties in order to belong to a local chapter, but that chapter disbanded many years ago. I enjoy RWR, but I don't know if it's worth the cost of my dues. I've never gone to RWA National, and though I'd like to, I'm not sure I could justify the cost. Since I don't belong to PAN (I've never applied) I don't know about the kerfuffle. For me it's more about cost/benefit; I'm not sure I need RWA anymore. Jana Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16624650840243322617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-27781623514484757692017-09-04T12:55:14.117-04:002017-09-04T12:55:14.117-04:00Same to you, Jim. Thanks for coming by.Same to you, Jim. Thanks for coming by.Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-14574907352659940522017-09-04T12:52:01.671-04:002017-09-04T12:52:01.671-04:00I feel for you, Liz. I, too, owe a debt of gratitu...I feel for you, Liz. I, too, owe a debt of gratitude to RWA and the romance community at large. Like you, I'm making what I hope will be a graceful exit from the romance writing community. While my reasons are different from those behind your exit from RWA, there are some close parallels, too. Regardless, you are a fabulous writer and I look forward more amazing books from you. Take care and hugs!J.C. Kenneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02324286622529860463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-61385248322078058852017-09-04T12:51:51.239-04:002017-09-04T12:51:51.239-04:00You're already in my "club," Valley....You're already in my "club," Valley. :-) If I'd thought leaving RWA would cost me my friends, I admit I wouldn't do it. It's kind of unfortunate that being so rural limits much of my clubbing to the cyber kind. <br />Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-57044238578666238002017-09-04T12:40:03.592-04:002017-09-04T12:40:03.592-04:00I appreciate and respect all of those decisions, L...I appreciate and respect all of those decisions, Liz. The PC in the organization verges on overwhelming. To me, this should be more about everyone behaving as generous, considerate adults -- not about requiring restrictions to mandate behaviors we should already have as adults. (Give me a break, puhleeze!) If it weren't for the information that is shared, and absolutely for my IRWA chapter mates, I know I would be seriously considering dropping out as well. Let me know if you start a "club"-- I'd love to join!Valleyhttp://www.valleybrown.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-53466391147002133232017-09-04T10:38:33.115-04:002017-09-04T10:38:33.115-04:00Yes. I agree. I should have addressed that in the ...Yes. I agree. I should have addressed that in the post and I should add that--as you know--the closest-to-local chapter to me is both welcoming and helpful. If there were one that truly WAS local for me, like NIRA was in its earlier days, I would have stayed in RWR for that reason. Hugs back atcha!Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-38796084305685465182017-09-04T10:27:01.469-04:002017-09-04T10:27:01.469-04:00Liz - I've been following the kurfuffle too, w...Liz - I've been following the kurfuffle too, with a lot of frustration and sadness. However I think of RWA as just a means to keep me viable in my local chapter, where I have found my "club" of friends who support and cheer and drink wine with each other. *This * is what I wish for you. *Hugs!*Ava Cuvayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06312693483840366091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-32426009796615896882017-09-04T10:24:44.667-04:002017-09-04T10:24:44.667-04:00I like being in the club with you! You belong to a...I like being in the club with you! You belong to a great chapter, though, that is local to you. Everything got too far away for me (in my tired-of-driving dotage ) and that was something that weighed heavily on my decision, too.<br />Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-34925186818358499712017-09-04T10:22:49.102-04:002017-09-04T10:22:49.102-04:00Thanks, Kristi!Thanks, Kristi!Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-43972899246702547552017-09-04T10:20:48.545-04:002017-09-04T10:20:48.545-04:00You are always welcome in my club, Liz. I agree ab...You are always welcome in my club, Liz. I agree about the conversation being uncomfortable and I am also rethinking my ties to RWA.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07596178148385425382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-55933271725523094472017-09-04T10:06:53.241-04:002017-09-04T10:06:53.241-04:00Great post, Liz! You said it very well. Great post, Liz! You said it very well. Kristina Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13674920511835640874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-73323477005097116232017-09-04T08:29:11.761-04:002017-09-04T08:29:11.761-04:00Thanks, Nan. It makes me sad in a way--there ARE t...Thanks, Nan. It makes me sad in a way--there ARE things I'll miss--but probably more that I won't. Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133132309124375119.post-87797168839957497792017-09-04T08:19:03.318-04:002017-09-04T08:19:03.318-04:00Wow, you are eloquent here as always and since we&...Wow, you are eloquent here as always and since we've talked about this numerous times privately, I'll only say, right on, sister. Sometimes we have to move on. I too have gained so much from RWA, particularly from my chaptermates--it brought me you, but I find that I fit less and less comfortably. I'm looking other places for my "club" and right now, I really, really need a club. Hugs, Liz, and thanks for always being mine. Nanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809913527142033733noreply@blogger.com